Support for the connector

I think it would be great, have lived here for 35 years, and would love to have access to Vancouver to go to shows etc and be able to come home and sleep in my own bed. People hate change, and then after the change they go……….”we should of done it sooner” Yes please build bridges, tunnels what ever it take to get rid of the ferries!  CN

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6 Responses to Support for the connector

  1. Ron McInnis says:

    Pave paradise and put in a parking lot.

  2. Erik says:

    To all those with any interest in seeing the Sunshine Coast survive beyond the baby boomers.

    I moved to the coast/ Pender Harbour from N Van in July of 2011.‎ I love it! I would be happy to share my experience despite it being much less than ferry tale! 😉 But that is another story.

    I was pleased to recently see a group of young individuals and local corporations at taking such interest in promoting the Sunshine Coast. It’s a beautiful place and it does need an economic boost and a burst of youth. I was also pleased to hear of the recent feasibility study regarding a bridge.
    If you truly want the coast to be a viable option for young people to consider, getting here has to be made easier and more attractive. The chances of a young couple relocating to the coast and both partners finding work here is slim and likely at least one will have to commute to the greater Vancouver area. I commute to the North Shore and people that aren’t coasters think I’m crazy. They all love the coast, just can’t bear the thought of the ferry every day. I can’t blame them. Especially when most people affiliate BC Ferries with ‎a lot of waiting. Either for late sailings, or merely to load, unload, to get to the ticket booth due to the ridiculous 10 minute cut off, or the ferry traffic in front of you on the other side before your final destination.
    Driving on the ferry is awful and at $50+ even with the experience card, it will make you broke doing it 5 days a week.‎ And crazy if you happen to miss not one but 2 sailings in day because they’re overloaded as it’s 2 hours till the next boat.
    Walking on is better‎ if you have the luxury of having a vehicle on both sides. I pity those who have to take the bus on the coast side because from what I hear, the bus won’t wait for a late ferry and then you’re stuck in the middle of nowhere for 2 hours. And I feel for those who have to take a bus to Horseshoe Bay as the ferry won’t wait for a bus stuck in traffic. Again resulting in a 2 hour wait.
    I’d say about 150- 200 commuters on both the first and second ferries, know that walking on is way easier and do it five days a week. But we still have to deal with consistently late ferries, all the traffic, mass amounts of vehicles all going the same way on the single lane road. And random, unaccommodating schedule changes. This month is a perfect example as there is only a 3:50pm or a 5:50pm boat to get commuters home. Most people can’t leave work at 3pm and the next boat gets me home at 7:45-8pm at the earliest. Yuk!

    This year I discovered the water taxi. Oh my goodness what paradise to have an alternative!
    2 water taxis leave at approx. 5:05 and 5:10 pm weekdays.
    Both will wait for customers if not too late, so no 10 minute cut off BS as they’d rather sail with a full boat.
    Crossing to Langdale in roughly 25‎ min (instead of an hour or more with loading and unloading and waiting) and when you arrive there’s no traffic, school buses or semi-trucks in front of you, making for a very pleasant commute.
    Both of these taxis only hold 12 people each and cost $17 from the Bay to Langdale. It’s $4.75 more than BC ferries (with the experience card) and it’s only one way, but wow, is it worth it.
    Unfortunately I’m only on the waiting list for these boats as a lot of us are. And both are at max capacity and only run for the summer months.
    I know it’s been tried before but‎ I think it’s due time that the coast ran a reliable 40+ person foot passenger ferry/water taxi all year around. At least doing the commuter runs to start. It’s great that they are talking about a bridge but how long will that take and in the mean time the coast is loosing young people daily, due to lack of work. Even with a bridge, there should be a foot passenger ferry. Otherwise what’s the sea bus for?
    Even Bowen Island has a water taxi that leaves from Granville Island and Coal Harbour regularly and one the leaves from semi regularly from Horseshoe Bay.
    This would entice more young people to move here. The price of property in some places is still quite reasonable. I bought my 3 bedroom,1300sq’ house with a water view, in 2011 for $225k!! My mortgage is cheaper than in my rent for one bedroom apartment in North Van was.

    At a time when how many hundreds of people are about to be hired by ‎Seaspan. Are they all going to live in North Van? Or continue to clog the bridges even more? Or could they replace the mill workers that may be forced off the coast due to the recent Port Mellon shut down. Or better yet, could those mill workers stay on the coast if they have viable transportation to the GVRD and therefore broadening their options for employment greatly! And really, are we just going to keep pushing people east to Chilliwack or Hope? Because the traffic situation is nearly beyond hope. Even getting around the North Shore these days is insane let alone across a bridge at rush hour or a long weekend. The coast has to be the next North Shore. It just makes geographical sense. Property values would increase the second it was easier to get here and along with that would come young families, tourism, and therefore a much needed local economy boost. What if people could just pop over from Horseshoe Bay for dinner as opposed to planning your whole day around the trip and BC ferries schedules.

    I have some what of an idea why previous water taxis have had start up challenges. Which is precisely why I reach out to you, and the public and media.
    Insurance and maintenance among licensing make a water taxi business a challenge. To thrive, I believe a different approach should be taken which would require some communal effort ‎from those able to participate. Some funding from local government (I’d say provincial too but they would just point at BC ferries as we rolled our eyes) would be ‎called for and local businesses that would benefit and could offer promos in conjunction with the WT.
    I personally would pay an increase in property tax to see an increase in my property value.
    Maybe it could be run more like a co-op for regular users. Annual or monthly maintenance fees but cheaper rates for commuters!? Tourists would pay full price but could be offered discounts at local businesses if they show their WT ticket. I bet some of the policies of Car to Go‎ would be applicable. Especially their “member perks” offering discounts at affiliated vendors. “Boat to Go”?! Car to go from the water taxi on the Langdale or Gibsons side?! They’ve already got parking stalls in Horseshoe bay. And I’ve just heard of “Coast Car Co-op” which would be a great affiliate for such a business.

    Perhaps Coastal Craft could build us a bare bones boat as the first official Foot passenger ferry to the coast. ‎Promoting both the coast and their company. I say bare bones because I think commuters could do without gift shop and a cafeteria for a 25 min ride. And with no frills maybe we wouldn’t have to consider slot machines to turn a profit.
    It will be hard to compete with BC ferries going from Langdale while it’s still free from this side but that is apparently changing soon. And one way it would be easy to compete would be to run sailings on opposite times or shortly after their schedule so that if you do miss a ferry you have other options.

    Another reason to consider a downtown-Langdale/Gibsons WT is the lack of ‎parking in Horseshoe Bay and that it’s about to become more scarce, due to the proposed Sewells development, and one day commuters may need a WT that takes them right downtown to afford to stay on the coast. At the moment I’m only proposing one from H. Bay to Langdale and Gibsons but we need to consider these possibilities now or risk playing catch up later.

    I really hope this makes sense to some of those businesses and government officials I’ve reached out too. Take this idea and make it happen. ‎I personally would offer what time I could, as well as immediate and on going financial support. That being said, I am a small business owner with a lot on my plate (It’s taken me all summer to finish this email) and not a ton of cash.

    With the right business strategy and financial support from local government, businesses and residents, the Sunshine Coast alone could make this happen. The provincial government should see the benefit as well.
    Change is inevitable. I just hope it’s for the better. Cause the BC Ferries Experience is nothing to call home about.

    I’ve sent this to both mayors of Gibsons and Sechelt. Our local MLA, some local businesses and as many media outlets as I could think of. And to Bill Good; I know you’ve retired but I’d love your help and your passion for the coast on this one.

    Great ideas are good ones mixed with feedback.


    • Oddvin says:

      Thank you Erik,
      my proposal is with a smaller fast passenger vessel from Langdale to downtown
      This is the sample of fast smaller passenger ferries for the BC coast, 97 passenger. These should connect all towns around the Georgia Straight. – link to one manufacturer

      • Erik says:

        Holy, That looks better than I could have dreamed. Have you sent this proposal to media, the governments or maybe even the owner of the George Hotel to be built in Gibsons? He is in favor of a water taxi and may even have the capital to back a starter boat.

      • Rob Stewart says:

        I am all for this option.
        Firstly, it is cheaper than a massive fixed link.
        Secondly, it would not leave a horrendous visual scar on the landscape.
        Thirdly, it is more flexible, with possible runs to not only Horseshoe Bay, but to Downtown Vancouver, and other points in the Howe Sound Region, like Squamish, Lions Bay, Port Mellon, etc.
        I firmly think that these iltra-modern, fast, passenger-only ferries are the best – and most cost-effective option.

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